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Post by three3pryme on Jul 22, 2015 11:33:42 GMT -5
Keep in mind!! The aliens also have an HQ and shipyard and stuff!
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Post by spaceman155 on Jul 22, 2015 11:56:07 GMT -5
Should the EDF have reactors also, maybe used as a upgrade or ship unlocking system?
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Post by joe130794 on Jul 22, 2015 14:01:16 GMT -5
having some similar to empires at war is a good idea. that way you can tap hq, research new stuff or upgrade your hq with more shipyards and such
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Post by Staff of Charon on Jul 22, 2015 16:37:43 GMT -5
About Daedalus: 10 million is way to much. Just like 15 million is way to much for Behemoth. Both should be priced reasonably: Under 5 million.
About medium ships: I love the idea for a new class ship. We already have light, support, and capital. Now, all we need is a middle man between light and capital. Support ships obviously support all classes. As always, I say that all ships should have customizable turrets. We should be able to have a Cerberus with only lasers or with lasers and rockets, or even with mass driver cannons.
About weapons: Mass driver cannons and anti matter cannons should be available to main gameplay and the new mode.
About New Mode: I'm liking where all of this is going so far. It sounds like a dire situation to begin as nothing but a small, weak ship dock with little time to spare before total war begins.
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Post by spaceman155 on Jul 22, 2015 17:13:27 GMT -5
We could make it where both sides start with the same settings. Have the AI advance at a reasonable speed, but with higher difficulties maybe have the AI advance faster and attack more frequently.
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Post by Clinkzbone on Jul 22, 2015 18:38:38 GMT -5
Behemoth is not overpriced.
It's ridiculously powerful, you can solo entire missions with that thing.
I don't think 10mil for Deladus is overpriced either, because it's also really powerful with its abilities.
Also, if you think about it, we already have the "medium ships".
We have fighters, so next step up would be Gladiators (Corvettes), then Centaurs (Frigates), then capital-class ships.
We don't need a ship that's slightly slower, slightly tougher and has 4 turrets. It has no niche that I can see other than as slight roadblocks to the alien fleet.
As for the new game mode, i have no comments other than that you need to have a unique selling point, and I don't see one yet. So far it's just standard RTS staples being suggested. So far so good, though.
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Post by three3pryme on Jul 22, 2015 18:57:05 GMT -5
Clinkzbone I agree, i bought it and its a beast! it even beat the mothership in one minute! The only threat it has is the beasts!
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Post by three3pryme on Jul 22, 2015 19:03:39 GMT -5
Should the EDF have reactors also, maybe used as a upgrade or ship unlocking system? Hey! i see you have an account now! sweet! So theres the HQ, a small shipyard, and a research facility The shipyards and facilities and everything other than the HQ should be re-buildible if you have enough resources. Unlike empire at war, you but ships FROM the station itself and not a separate scalpel or shipyard. Space Borders made a new ship for 2.2 but he said it wasnt gonna be released, but if i convince him, he could add it to skirmish mode when in production! It was like a hydra with turrets, but we could remove the fighters and just have 4 turrets and extended health! I think the behemoth should NOT be in the new mode. Reasons being: 1. Its too expensive 2. If you even manage resources to buy it, then its just gonna end the game immediately. But i think the daedalus can make an appearance!
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Post by three3pryme on Jul 22, 2015 19:07:05 GMT -5
Behemoth is not overpriced. It's ridiculously powerful, you can solo entire missions with that thing. I don't think 10mil for Deladus is overpriced either, because it's also really powerful with its abilities. Also, if you think about it, we already have the "medium ships". We have fighters, so next step up would be Gladiators (Corvettes), then Centaurs (Frigates), then capital-class ships. We don't need a ship that's slightly slower, slightly tougher and has 4 turrets. It has no niche that I can see other than as slight roadblocks to the alien fleet. As for the new game mode, i have no comments other than that you need to have a unique selling point, and I don't see one yet. So far it's just standard RTS staples being suggested. So far so good, though. I wouldnt consider the gladiator as a corvette and centuar as a frigate. In fact i would grade them down both by one The centaur would be a heavy fighter, and gladiator could be a corvette! I think there should be a new type of ship just in this mode because from range of cap ships to smaller ships it makes a HUGE range away from each other, both in power, speed, and price. One thing i think we should have is the ability to build fighters individually (Homeworld style) BUT you can tap on them and give them orders to attack stuff. i would do that in a strategic way
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Post by Staff of Charon on Jul 22, 2015 21:01:09 GMT -5
I like all of the ideas coming together for the new mode, but I still stand on my belief that the Behemoth is overpriced. How can anyone enjoy using the ship and having it in their fleet if they can never obtain the 15 million to buy it? Anyone who tries will simply get bored with the game and quit before they get close to buying it.
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Post by three3pryme on Jul 22, 2015 23:24:21 GMT -5
heres some advice. get to the alien homeworld, once you defeat the beasts, youll be GREATLY rewarded
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Post by Clinkzbone on Jul 23, 2015 4:29:26 GMT -5
Yep, what he said. Just play the last sector about 20 times (not entirely sure, actually I think it's less) and you can afford a Behemoth. Aaaand we are off topic again. Whoops.
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Post by acbirkland on Jul 23, 2015 5:37:35 GMT -5
I disagree. The behemoth and the Daedalus are game changers, it's impossible to lose when you have them, so I think it's more than fair to have it priced that high. In fact I'd say the Daedalus needs to be more than the behemoth.
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Post by joe130794 on Jul 23, 2015 6:09:02 GMT -5
the hydra mk2. maybe thats what the hydra could become when its at its max level. maybe make a max level version for all the ships that looks slightly different, bulkier with maybe a couple more turrets or something.
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Post by three3pryme on Jul 23, 2015 10:16:58 GMT -5
Clinkzbone to add on, id also consider a cerberus (including the laser one) a battleship or heavy destroyer, the Aegeon a dreadnaught, and the behemoth a titan (what a fitting name eh?) P.S. its about 7 times and then 500K , left which you can get from other stuff Okay well guys lets stop getting off topic please. Thanks. Now anyway the daedelus can make an appearance in skirmish mode, but itd have to be a tad more expensive than the aegeon in my opinion since its unarmed. Ill ask Space borders later about the hydra MK2/ medium class ships in the new mode. now what else could be here! Im thinking that there should be capturable mines that grant infinite income to you at a certain rate! the mines can be lost and captured again and again. Found that out in SASE and empire at war.
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