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Post by three3pryme on Jun 9, 2015 17:32:29 GMT -5
OKAY! i have a GREAT idea that could get this game a very high boost!!
Since this game is inspired by homeworld, what one mode this game doesnt have. SKIRMISH!!
Im thinking take homeworld for example. you have the mothership, farm resources, make new ships. BUT its ALL in one battle!!!! The enemy can ALSO have a mothership!
If you have played and/or seen homeworld skirmish mode, youll know what im talking about.
2 sides both have a mothership! both collect resources! both make, and research new ships to use in battle to destroy the enemy!!!
i know what your thinking, the humans are overpowered. but we could balance it out!! we could have a difficulty level, maps, teammates!!
i do realize this mode can be VERY big and memory hungry, but i really want to see what happens!!
have any questions?? just ask away!
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Post by three3pryme on Jun 9, 2015 20:56:56 GMT -5
also, does anyone know how to make new threads "hot" or announcement"? or do i not have permission.
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Post by Space Borders on Jun 10, 2015 5:42:40 GMT -5
A thread is marked as "hot", once it reaches a certain amount of posts. Announcements can only be made by the admin of a ProBoards forum.
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Post by three3pryme on Jun 10, 2015 5:45:15 GMT -5
ah, ok! and do you have an opinion on the new skirmish mode?? i may have over exaggerated a bit.
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Post by Space Borders on Jun 10, 2015 8:30:17 GMT -5
No, actually I think it's a good idea. It will however require lots of planning to add a major feature like that. Since the mothership is incapable of producing capital ships for example, cap. ships would probably have to come from either a station you start with (a base of some kind), or from a new ship constructing vessel, like the shipyard in Homeworld 2. Also, a new research system would have to be added. All in all, maps would probably have to be bigger and a new AI for the aliens would have to be added, one which obeys the same rules in terms of collecting resources, researching and building, organizing ship formations for attacks etc. It is a cool idea, but like you said, it's big, very big, but not impossible. Right now Yann Sauvage is working hard and producing some very impressive work, with his new ship models. Once these are in and everything works well, the entire community can vote on the next step this game should take, i.e. whether the prequel should come next, or whether we should pursue the skirmish mode which you have suggested here.
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Post by three3pryme on Jun 10, 2015 9:20:17 GMT -5
the aliens's AI may need to be improved too, like now for example, most of the time, they are just like native americans. "Trained to kill" they basically dont retreat and always chase you. we should make it so some can defend, some can protect something, and some can go after you in groups! it could be very strategic.
Edit: i get sometimes they come in groups but its already pre-planned AI by you when you programmed it. and mostly its in the campaign
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Post by three3pryme on Jun 10, 2015 9:23:06 GMT -5
about the vote, even tho im hyped for this particular update, i may go for the prequel idea before skirmish mode. because i really like the prequel idea! awesome job thinking of it (whoever thought of the idea)
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Post by joe130794 on Jun 10, 2015 9:46:52 GMT -5
Yeah I think prequel first. Plus you could use the aliens headquarters in conquest mode and the human headquarters too.
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Post by Space Borders on Jun 10, 2015 9:47:43 GMT -5
Believe it or not, we had a discussion about improving the AI about a year ago. I had some really good ideas for that too, back then. Big ships, like battlecruisers would command smaller ships and order them into a formation with the battlecruiser. When finally closing in on the enemy (you), the battlecruiser would selectively order the ships under its command to make attacks according to available vulnerabilities. For example, fighters would be ordered to attack ships like harvesters, repair ships and Hydras. Corvettes would go for Centaurs and Gladiators, or aid the battlecruiser with an attack on one of your capital ships. Should the battlecruiser be destroyed, the next largest ship would take over the remaining fleet and continue. If there was another battlecruiser nearby, it would take command of all of them etc. This would make the game significantly more difficult though, because you might face several challenges at the same time. You might encounter a situation where a battlecruiser and two destroyers are heading for one of your Cerberus class ships, while fighters are trying to specifically attack weak support ships. I think I could implement this behavior within a week or so, but it would have to be tested a lot, especially for difficulty.
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Post by three3pryme on Jun 10, 2015 22:23:28 GMT -5
come to think of it, i may change my vote. I still love the prequel idea but im thinking we should finish this game first before we get into the whole "Prequel" idea.
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Post by three3pryme on Jun 10, 2015 22:25:16 GMT -5
also, about the new AI, maybe they should be more "retarded" at difficulty L1 and "Beyond strategic" at L5 maybe. you dont have to add the names but do you get what im saying here?
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Post by Space Borders on Jun 13, 2015 17:18:38 GMT -5
Yep, understand what you mean. Seems like changing the AI the way I initially planned, is not going to work out so well. Clustered enemies make a great target for special abilities, it also limits the movement of ships that are normally much faster. The current randomness of alien attacks seems to be much more effective. I think what can be improved though is target selection. Make light ships go for smaller targets first, like the harvester etc and choose targets that are not well protected. In short: target prioritization.
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Post by three3pryme on Jun 13, 2015 21:59:06 GMT -5
Understood! should i make a poll and see if people want the prequel or skirmish mode first??
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Post by three3pryme on Jun 13, 2015 22:34:27 GMT -5
ill just do it anyway
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Post by three3pryme on Jun 20, 2015 11:00:10 GMT -5
does anyone else on the forum aprove or second this idea? and yes i know were focusing on yann's amazing wrk. but i mean we couple pre-plan for the future!
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